Saturday, September 1, 2007
Class three and the second response
When you've done that, write and post an analysis of these stories (and O'Brien in general if you know The Things They Carried), which specifically deals with the way that O'Brien breaks with the war story genre. That is, O'Brien writes in a post-Apocalypse Now, post-Platoon, era, and is well aware of a reader's expectations regarding war stories. How do these works undermine or work against those expectations? Be sure to establish to the degree possible what those expectations are, and then quote the details of the stories to show how O'Brien breaks with them both in his subject and his form.
One rule: In the response quote O'Brien at least two times, Foucault once and Chandler once (the second section).
And this week also write a one or two paragraph comment on someone else's response. Except (and here's a reward) the first person to post--whoever does that gets out of the comment
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Class Two
spend its time grappling with the 'why' and the 'how' rather than the 'what.' That is, 'if we are studying the way in which genre frames the reader's interpretation of a text then we would do well to focus on how readers identify genres rather than on theoetical distinctions.' Why and how the viewer/reader uses the Western, for example, rather than what defines the Western. And added to this is the suggestion that this turns on a critical relationship between the needs of the audience and the needs of the producer, a relationship which can tell us quite a bit about the needs of the culture at large.
More amusingly, watch the link to Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday in Tombstone...some of the finest lines the western has ever offered (and, as we will get to when we discuss 'Purpose' next week, it is a genre dominated by good lines).
I'll post the readings (more Chandler, some of the Foucalt listed here) later this week (let's say by Saturday morning at ten), as well as a response for next Wednesday. Enjoy the long weekend.
What Genre is This?
Lee K. Abbot’s "The Purpose of This Creature Man" is a unique look at humanity that has roots in more than on genre. In one sense, it is a western. The tale of bank robbing outlaws who organize a gang and engage in gunfights with the law easily fit’s the mold of most westerns. On the other hand, it’s quirky and unusually loveable criminal characters, each with something different to bring to the table, gives the story somewhat of a comedic feel. Furthermore, the tragic ending, in which all the characters are forced to realize they cannot continue to live a life of crime, regardless of their approach to it, makes it a moral story, designed to teach the audience a lesson.
Perhaps by allowing this story to meet the criteria of several different genres the author is hoping to reach a broader audience. Or maybe the genre in which it is read depends solely on the reader, fit to his or her interpretation and personal values.
The author Abbot again shakes it up when he speaks about the modes of transportation. Doc’s motorcar is important in shaping the story through creating a time frame for which things are happening. The usual and most efficient way of getting from place to place during the19th century was by horseback, the use of the motorcar outs the time frame for this story in the late 19th century into the 20th century and the start to the scientific revolution.
Bank robberies and stickups were common during the western era. The taking what you want mentality and uncanny bravado, believing you are untouchable, was common for desperadoes of the “Wild West.” The vigilante justice taken on by the jilted rebels and fed up civilians was the most effective form of justice during an era where braggadocios marauders lived outside the law.
One feature of the story that did not seem to coincide with the assumed genre of a western is kid. Transgender almost feminine men were almost non-existent in the West where the rough and rugged reigned supreme.
Purpose fits into what Chandler is saying because it shows that there is no definitive genre, there is nothing that sets a certain genre in stone. Genre can and will be whatever and however the reader perceives. The genre van change if a reader feels that an element does not belong with the assumed genre of the piece.
Western?
The setting, language, and everything about the story implies that it is a western. But it is still too vague, just because a story or film contains bandits on horseback in Texas, it doesn't necessarily have to be classified as a Western. It could have been a drama or something else relating to these things. Doc's crew doesn't consist of your average bandits, he has weird people who do awkward things. Best example being " The Verdigris Kid" who was a sissy and turns into a women at the end of the story, thats not what a bandit is supposed to be like, they are suppose to be these tough rugged guys who like to commit crimes and fight a lot.
Stories like this support Chandlers theory because there is no specific or definite genre. I believe in the Chandler reading there was something about how genres constantly change over time and we keep creating new genres and categories for things. In the near future this story might fall into another genre and no longer be a Western.
The Problem with Genres
be defined by necessary and sufficient conditions." This statement couldn't be more true, especially when comparing it to Lee K Abbott's story The Purpose of this Creature Man.
The story seems to fall under the category of a western genre when one starts to read the first few lines and there is a 'hold up' which rings true of most westerns, however, there are multiple findings throught the story that would lead the reader to believe that there are many holes in anyone's ideas of a true genre just as Chandler agrees in his Defintion of a Genre.
I have seen many old western movies in my time and never have I known a leader of the outlaw gang of robbers to be a graduate of the "Stillman Academy of chiropractic Medicine in Peoria, Illinos." As Doc robs the safety deposit box from the clerk at the post office, he tells a man, "Son, think of me as an unwelcome but polite relative. In the meantime,stand upright and
square. Posture's lifelong and chronic." That doesn't sound like a typical western robber at all, more like a very well off and educated man.
There are certain lines throughout the story that are remniscent of an old western that keeps it going with the theme such as " Every marshall was trailing us, even the special Indian Deputies from the Nations." However, when I think of any western, I picture the imagery of the outlaws riding away on their galloping horses with a cloud of dust kicked up from the horse's hooves as they race away, not the leader of the gang putting away in his Dodge. Also, I have always thought that the typical western genre male character of a cowboy to be strong and masculine, dirty and spitting out tobacco through the space of his stained teeth, not at all feminine like the character of the Kid, who actually dresses like a woman and recites sonnets.
I guess Chandler is right. No one can actually say that one specific genre has to be a certain way and that is the end all. People are complex characters in nature with many facets and quirks about them so who am I to say that there can't be many genres and sub genres, etc. I have always thought of a western to be a certain way just because of how I have seen it portrayed in the past by society. Maybe that is not so at all.
What makes a western a western?
So, what makes "the purpose of this creature man" a western? Let's look at the time and the place. I found a first clue in Doc's Hobbes motorcar. A 1906 model. With that in mind, I assumed that the story is set in 1906 or later. A Western can be as early as 1860 and as late as 1920s. Let's look at the place. Duke, whose alias given by doc, had criminal history in Missouri. Also, Doc and his gang's first score occurs in Arkansas. The problem is, these are not in west. Then I wonder if this is a Western at all. The sawed off Winchester scattergun may make this a Western. The fact that one guy organizes a gang to commit crimes also may make this one a Western. Apart from time and place criteria, what about contents? What kind of story constitutes a Western? Only the ones in which guys like Doc and his gangs rob places and spraying bullets everywhere? Because I thought "Far and Away" was a Western.
Is it or is it not a Western?
Chandler, author of The Problem of Definition, at least to my understanding of it, argues how genres are not as set as one would ordinarily expect them to be, that, despite the basic ideas of said genre (in this case, westerns) being ever present, the way it is presented, in any media, will always include certain divergences depending on a number of factors, the way of writing certainly being one of them. And this story being written as a sort of modern-style western, complete with semi-current event issues (and even a “1906 Hobbes motorcar”), is a direct result of it turning out the way it did.
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
A Western that can be considered a Comedy?
Response
Language, Setting, Characters, and Plot, along with some particular scenes.
The language used in the story lends it a western air. Language like the narrator’s use of “banditos” and “desperados” brings up mental images of dusty trails and masked men on horseback. Doc calling his followers a “gang of outlaws” and “ne’er-do-well[s]”, he calls the police “lawmen” and affectionately refers to his followers directly as “boys”.
The setting is an obvious throwback to westerns as the location is the Midwest United States and the time is at the turn of the century (1900’s).
As far as the characters go, names like “Doc”, “Chicken Jim”, “Big Bob Cook”, and the “Verdigris Kid” make it easy to slip into the western feel. The fact that they are outlaws, moving from place to place and holding heists, is not enough to invoke the western classification. However, the way Abbott lays out these heist scenes, such as Big Bob bursting in with guns drawn, as well as the hit of the fort to steal the soldiers’ pay does take the story back to the western side of things.
What make’s “Love is a Crooked Thing” such an unusual western are all the little bits and pieces that don’t quite fit into that western mold. The Doc’s cold, calculating, scholarly nature is a far cry from the normal gun slinging, dirty western villain. The same applies to the cohort of unusual characters he surrounds himself with. The “Verdigris Kid” is a transvestite, hardly standard western material. His other lackeys include a poet and a scholar, more outsiders in the normal western posse.
Yet it all comes together in what can be easily classified as a western. That classification, however, and classifications in general for that matter, are all subject to the inconsistencies of their components. Some people would say it is a shaky western because of its characters. Daniel Chandler is particular, would choose not to classify it. According to Chandler’s “The Problem of Definition” section of his piece “An Introduction to Genre Theory”, he believes that all works can be classified into any or all genres, simply based on the point of view of the classifier. That point of view, Chandler says, can be changed by location, time period, personal politics, as well as what the trend of the time is.
Assignment #1
I understand the story Chandler is trying to portray to the reader how genre can be used to describe many different aspects. I agree with him when he compares the word genre not only literature but also movies, TV, and readings. I think the purpose of the term genre is to inform the reader of what he is about to read or view and inform them what the main viewpoint is. After looking at "Love is a Crooked Thing" and reading the first paragraph i picture a western setting. The way the story is written also portrays to me a western genre.
So after reading Chandlers story and reading his viewpoints about the word genre, and then reading Love is a Crooked Thing I definitely agree with the way Chandler feels the word genre can portray many things.
Response
'The Purpose of this Creature Man' as Western
The first striking hint of a western can be defined by the various settings throughout the story. There are mentions of Missouri and Illinois, as well as New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas. Although some of these states are techincally 'central' United States, I may be wrong, but a story set in New York or North Carolina, for example, are far from being considered westerns at all.
Another connection to a western story 'Purpose...' makes are the frequent descriptions of Native Americans; although I've seen a limited amount of westerns, once I imagine a western film, the image of Native Americans fighting cowboys instantly comes to mind.
The most obvious portrayals in this story that allow it to be classified as a western are the "hands up" at the banks for one, and the depictions of western clothing: the boots and leather laced vests just scream out western to me.
As mentioned before, many of these connections to the west are contradicted by the narrators education at the Newata (OK) School of Industrial Arts and Doc's statement while holding up the Washington & St. Louis Dial-Lock Drop Steel Safety Box: "I am a graduate of the Stillman Academy of Chiropractic Medicine of Peoria, Illinois...I can cure sciatica, the bloddy flux, etc." (p. 142). As far as I'm concerned, cowboys or westerners as the ones that I imagined while reading this story, didn't get much of an education. This too can be made apparent through their dialogue, which is quite informal.
'Purpose...' can be related to Chandler's 'Introduction to Genre Theory'. To sum up Chandler's confusing argument, according to him and many other scholars and authors, a story, poem, film, show, etc. cannot always be categorized as a certain genre because it may classify as many different genres all at once; the concept of a certain genre changes with time. It evolves according to the changes in media as well as society. This can be related to 'Purpose...' in that the story is not set in one time frame, but is set throughout an extended period of time. Although in the beginning it may have appeared to be more of a western than it did towards the end, this might have been so because as Chandler explained, the classifications of genres alter with the recurring changes in society.
Genre 'western'
Response (8/27/2007)
Lee K. Abbott’s “Love Is The Crooked Thing” contains anything that your typical Western story would have. It has your “tough hombres” like Doctor Leroy Toolchin, who, according to La Duc A.K.A. Duke, the speaker, had a face that said “Citizens, be still. My profession is violent but I will be gone shortly” as he awe-strikingly bore witness to the Doc rob the town safe box, as seen on page 142. The good doctor would later offer Duke, after giving him that nickname, as “number two in [the Doc’s] outfit” on page 145. With “tough hombres” and gangs of outlaws, “Love Is The Crooked Thing” sounds like it would be classified under the Western genre.
Daniel Chandler, in the “The Problem of Definition” section of his writing “An Introduction to Genre Theory”, states that “…in the case of films, some seem to be aligned with one genre in content and another genre in form.”. While “Love Is The Crooked Thing” is not a film, I believe this statement applies to this story. While the content is that of a Western, the form, in some instances, can have some atypical dialogue to that of a Western. An example of this is when the Doc, on page 147, speaks about his intellect in saying: “I know quotes from Utillo and Sange… a little about the planets, namely Mars.” In the grand spectrum of things, the character of the Doc contradicts the archetype of the gun-toting, hot-tempered, quick to kill, criminals. The Doc seems to be a very, cool, collected, intellectual man, as if he were a villain from sort of espionages story, clearly a transcendence from the typical Western criminal.
Chandler, in his essay, “An Introduction to Genre Theory”, is trying to explain how genres aren’t so cut and dry, but there are many different barriers that genres set up that the media tends to defy. “Love Is The Crooked Thing” defies the traditional boundaries of the typical Western medium mostly through it’s viewpoint of the typical “bad guys” that rob banks and threaten people, albeit these “baddies” are stoic in comparison to the gun-crazy, sheriff killing archetypes of Western media.
In my opinion the details that give us our first clue to the western nod of this story is the dialogue. Wrought with grammatical errors, we all know outlaws never made the dean’s list, and sentence scrunching contractions like; ain’t, the dialogue harkens back to the days of gunslingers and cowboys. The author follows the rich dialogue with the appropriate accoutrements for a western. I mean really, any western worth it’s salt wouldn’t be complete without it’s fair share of :
“…horse thieves, back stabbers, dry-gulchers, claim-jumpers, …”
The shoot-outs, the robberies, the way the characters were dressed, each of these things scream of a western story. Oh and let’s not forget the sawed off Winchester scattergun.
However there were a few things that I found inconsistent. Granted, I may be tainted by my love of Sergio Leone but if it is to be a western, a true grit dusty boot heels
knocking on the hardwood floor western, then they’ve got to ride around on hoarse back. Every time I started to hear spurs jangling in my head along came a reference to some sort of automobile and destroyed the illusion for me. Every time they talked about Doc’s Ford I started to think of Bonnie and Clyde instead of The Man with no Name. Car’s in my mind speak to a different time period, one just after the “wild” west but maybe I’m just being naïve of American history.
Also there was a little bit too much education in these outlaws. I don’t mean to imply that in my mind the true western is filled with a bunch of blithering idiots. I’m not against them reading or writing or even composing the occasional poem but being, “completely educated at the Newata (OK) School of Industrial Arts,” was a bit much for me. It seems to me that the more education a man gets the less likely he is to stray toward a life of robbin’ and thievin’.
I have to admit I found it difficult to extract Chandler’s individual rhetoric or thesis from the sea of paraphrasing, citations, and devils advocate arguments. Please forgive me, I didn’t get my nap today but I didn’t see a clear personal opinion on the part of Daniel Chandler but rather a barrage of quoted opinions from other authors. That being said I shall do my best to complete the assignment.
I believe his argument was summed up in the last paragraph, the last paragraph typically being the conclusion, yet I do not feel comfortable quoting it since it is clearly cited from (Derrida 1981, 61). This was however something I agreed with. It is impossible to consider all of story telling without instinctively wanting to group them together somehow, seeing commonality somewhere along the line. In the case of The Purpose of This Creature Man it is perfectly reasonable to consider the elements of story that the reader finds conflicting to the typical western as the authors attempt to make the story original. On the other hand there are other elements in the story that burn so brightly, the story on a whole cannot help but be classified as a western.I believe this has a much broader application. Although there are stories that have yet to be written and original ideas we haven’t seen yet, at some point any story will lend itself to classification of some sort.