Sunday, September 9, 2007

Class #3 response

Chandler and Fish have similar views about Genre. Chandler states the " Genre provides an important frame of reference which helps readers to identify, select, and interpret texts. " While Fish states " --and indeed definitions of poetry are recipes, for by directing readers as to what to look for in a poem, they instruct them in ways of looking that will produce what they expect to see. These statements reflect what we've been discussing in class regarding the "Western". Each of us have similar, but varying ideas of what we consider to be a "Western" stemming from our personal experiences with this genre that we incorporate into our knowledge . Chandler suggests this as well..."Clearly one needs to encounter sufficient examples of a genre in order to recognize shared features as being characteristic of it."

With Eagleton we learn that "just as people may treat a work as philosophy in one century and as literature in the next, or visa versa, so they may change their minds about what writing they consider valuable. He considers 'value' a transitive term meaning whatever is valued by a certain people in specific situations, according to particular criteria and in the light of given purposes. This is evident in our discussions about the Western genre. In the John Wayne era of "the western" society deemed the films "valuable" so as long as that attitude remained, that type of movie would continue to be made.

An example of social expectations and conventions could be a funeral or wake. You are expected to dress appropriately, be respectful of the grieving family, and friends. It would not be appropriate to go to a funeral or wake dressed in shorts and a tank top. There is always a chance of running into someone you hadn't seen in a long time, so you shouldn't act like it's a reunion.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree with the way you connect Chandler and Fish's viewpoints. How Chandler focuses on Genre and Fish talks about understanding Poetry. I also used Fish's quote about relating poetry to receipes in my response cause it showed the reader what to exactly look for in a poem.

MAXP said...

The use of Chandler's views of genre were well connected in a way to Fish's writing. I agree when you use Fish's quote about poetry as recipes because is well explained by Fish, that there are thins to follow in a poem, and that nothing is left without observation just like in a recipe, this is used to connect the reader to the poem, just like Chandler suggest that genre connects the reader to the story.